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	<description>Why a nice Protestant guy became Orthodox...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Saint Silouan the Athonite by Daniel Iribarne</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/03/15/saint-silouan-the-athonite/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Iribarne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ask you some prayers for my soul, that Jesus, our only savior and Lord makes me humble, and that His will be done in me and in all. Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask you some prayers for my soul, that Jesus, our only savior and Lord makes me humble, and that His will be done in me and in all. Amen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Tradition Fractures by The Faith of Saintly Augustine &#171; OrthoPraxy</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/10/07/when-tradition-fractures/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>The Faith of Saintly Augustine &#171; OrthoPraxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Saints in an Orthodox manner, wherever even remotely possible. After all. St. Gregory Palamas draws heavily on De Trinitate, a book that makes me more than cringe in my futile understanding of it, for his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Saints in an Orthodox manner, wherever even remotely possible. After all. St. Gregory Palamas draws heavily on De Trinitate, a book that makes me more than cringe in my futile understanding of it, for his [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hymn to St Michael from the Carmina Gadelica by Silouan</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/09/30/irish-hymn-to-st-michael/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Silouan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame Cainnech at &lt;a href="http://jacobsteeth.blogspot.com/search?q=carmina" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jacob's Teeth&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; :-)

He's the one said it was from my blog. I figured he must be posting from the future, after I shall have posted it. So &lt;em&gt;to avoid changing history&lt;/em&gt;, I had to post it here. Sacred duty and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame Cainnech at <a href="http://jacobsteeth.blogspot.com/search?q=carmina" rel="nofollow"><strong>Jacob&#8217;s Teeth</strong></a> :-)</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the one said it was from my blog. I figured he must be posting from the future, after I shall have posted it. So <em>to avoid changing history</em>, I had to post it here. Sacred duty and all that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The inverted pyramid by The Poor Blogger</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/09/25/the-inverted-pyramid/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>The Poor Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey.  I said something similar in a &lt;a href="http://poor-blogger.blogspot.com/2004/12/orbital-authority.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;post on the orbital model of authority&lt;/a&gt; in 2004:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;However, as in most matters, it would seem that a Christian conception of authority should turn the human model on its head, placing the most powerful at the bottom supporting the rest. This one works with God. No human can support more than he is. God, however, can invert the pyramid, supporting all creation on Himself. Or, rather, He is both base and pinnacle; the transcendent head, creator and ruler and imminent root of our existence.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey.  I said something similar in a <a href="http://poor-blogger.blogspot.com/2004/12/orbital-authority.html" rel="nofollow">post on the orbital model of authority</a> in 2004:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>However, as in most matters, it would seem that a Christian conception of authority should turn the human model on its head, placing the most powerful at the bottom supporting the rest. This one works with God. No human can support more than he is. God, however, can invert the pyramid, supporting all creation on Himself. Or, rather, He is both base and pinnacle; the transcendent head, creator and ruler and imminent root of our existence.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Hymn to St Michael from the Carmina Gadelica by The Poor Blogger</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/09/30/irish-hymn-to-st-michael/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>The Poor Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARGH!!! It comes from MEEEEE!  I posted it THREE YEARS AGO!!!  Sure, I didn't write it, but I did do the font and bolding ... and even though I don't give credit when I steal things for my blog, I sure as heck want credit when people bogart from mine!  

Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARGH!!! It comes from MEEEEE!  I posted it THREE YEARS AGO!!!  Sure, I didn&#8217;t write it, but I did do the font and bolding &#8230; and even though I don&#8217;t give credit when I steal things for my blog, I sure as heck want credit when people bogart from mine!  </p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A prayer to my guardian angel by Guardian Angel &#171; in the process of weeding out</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/09/18/a-prayer-to-my-guardian-angel/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian Angel &#171; in the process of weeding out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guardian&#160;Angel  Silouan shares a prayer to your Guardian Angel, along with an article written by Fr. Stephen Freeman: here. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Healing the Heart by Healing the Heart &#171; Silent Revolution Journal</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/09/16/healing-the-heart/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Healing the Heart &#171; Silent Revolution Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the entire article: Healing the Heart &#124; S I L O U A N ]  Blogged with the Flock [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Under the Heaven Tree by Justin Ratliff</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/09/02/under-the-heaven-tree/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Ratliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I'm going to have to read this again.

"Contemporary culture honors the rebel above all other authority. The rebel enjoys highest status and greatest power. The rebel is the Establishment."  So True!

What of others, who are outside, in the secular culture?

"There is no outside. There is no place where God is not, even now. Even those who do not know the truth of Christ are also created, beloved, and known by Him. He is closer to them than their own breath, though they do not know Him. We work together with God so that every person can come to saving knowledge of Christ, and be healed and transformed alongside us."  Powerful!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I&#8217;m going to have to read this again.</p>
<p>&#8220;Contemporary culture honors the rebel above all other authority. The rebel enjoys highest status and greatest power. The rebel is the Establishment.&#8221;  So True!</p>
<p>What of others, who are outside, in the secular culture?</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no outside. There is no place where God is not, even now. Even those who do not know the truth of Christ are also created, beloved, and known by Him. He is closer to them than their own breath, though they do not know Him. We work together with God so that every person can come to saving knowledge of Christ, and be healed and transformed alongside us.&#8221;  Powerful!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Consent by Justin Ratliff</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/23/consent/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Ratliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This past Sunday we had a special speaker that gave an illustration that almost exactly fit this!  I just read this today.  It is awesome how God speaks and gives conformation.  Thanks for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past Sunday we had a special speaker that gave an illustration that almost exactly fit this!  I just read this today.  It is awesome how God speaks and gives conformation.  Thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deacons and bishops at  the end of the first century by Justin Ratliff</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/27/ignatius-diaconate/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Ratliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.  I am especially interested in the ministry gift/office structure of the early church. Could you do an article of how the early church went from Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers to the Three fold?  Also have you read "The Church of the Holy Spirit" by Nicholas Afanasiev?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  I am especially interested in the ministry gift/office structure of the early church. Could you do an article of how the early church went from Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers to the Three fold?  Also have you read &#8220;The Church of the Holy Spirit&#8221; by Nicholas Afanasiev?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sola Scriptura by Jonathan Puddle</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/07/29/sola-scriptura/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Puddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may not differ so much from them on the role of Scripture ;)

Hope you enjoy. Directly after reading that one, I read &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-True-Spiritual-Community-Profound/dp/0849918847" rel="nofollow"&gt;Becoming a True Spiritual Community&lt;/a&gt;, by Larry Crabb, which was an excellent follow-up. Looking at what the church COULD be, if we got past all this stuff, and could just love each other, in our brokenness. What if we could be safe with each other, rather than safe from each other? What if our desire to actually obey Christ elbowed out the religious pressure to behave like good people? 
As much as Pagan Christianity opened my mind to some interesting things, Larry Crabb's book broke my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may not differ so much from them on the role of Scripture ;)</p>
<p>Hope you enjoy. Directly after reading that one, I read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-True-Spiritual-Community-Profound/dp/0849918847" rel="nofollow">Becoming a True Spiritual Community</a>, by Larry Crabb, which was an excellent follow-up. Looking at what the church COULD be, if we got past all this stuff, and could just love each other, in our brokenness. What if we could be safe with each other, rather than safe from each other? What if our desire to actually obey Christ elbowed out the religious pressure to behave like good people?<br />
As much as Pagan Christianity opened my mind to some interesting things, Larry Crabb&#8217;s book broke my heart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sola Scriptura by Silouan</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/07/29/sola-scriptura/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Silouan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't read it - but now that you mention the book and I google it, I see a fair amount of love/hate pontificating about it on teh Intarwebs. I'll order a copy!

Some things I'd hope the authors note... the earliest Christians were Jews, used to worshiping in synagogues; &lt;a href="http://silouanthompson.net/library/early-church/justin-liturgy/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Justin Martyr&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/27/development-liturgy/" rel="nofollow"&gt;many others&lt;/a&gt; described how that liturgical life developed in the early Church. And while the modern Protestant model of pastor as unitary executive is foreign to pretty much all Christianity before the Radical Reformation, we do have accounts from first-century witnesses like &lt;a href="http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/27/ignatius-diaconate/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ignatius&lt;/a&gt; who put the New Testament descriptions of servant leadership into context for us. How did first-century Christians worship, order and grow their communities, and so on? It's not hard to ask them - they were pretty prolific writers :-)

One place where I expect I'll differ from Viola and Barna is on the role of Scripture. The New Testament was written to churches that were &lt;em&gt;already functioning&lt;/em&gt; (or dysfunctioning) and the recipients of the Epistles only needed the apostles' corrective notes. The NT doesn't provide a blueprint for creating (or re-creating) the Church; it's not meant to, since the NT comes &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; the Church already existed.

Anyway, I'll give &lt;em&gt;The Pagan Church&lt;/em&gt; a serious read and see about writing a review. Thanks for the recommendation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read it - but now that you mention the book and I google it, I see a fair amount of love/hate pontificating about it on teh Intarwebs. I&#8217;ll order a copy!</p>
<p>Some things I&#8217;d hope the authors note&#8230; the earliest Christians were Jews, used to worshiping in synagogues; <a href="http://silouanthompson.net/library/early-church/justin-liturgy/" rel="nofollow">Justin Martyr</a> and <a href="http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/27/development-liturgy/" rel="nofollow">many others</a> described how that liturgical life developed in the early Church. And while the modern Protestant model of pastor as unitary executive is foreign to pretty much all Christianity before the Radical Reformation, we do have accounts from first-century witnesses like <a href="http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/27/ignatius-diaconate/" rel="nofollow">Ignatius</a> who put the New Testament descriptions of servant leadership into context for us. How did first-century Christians worship, order and grow their communities, and so on? It&#8217;s not hard to ask them - they were pretty prolific writers :-)</p>
<p>One place where I expect I&#8217;ll differ from Viola and Barna is on the role of Scripture. The New Testament was written to churches that were <em>already functioning</em> (or dysfunctioning) and the recipients of the Epistles only needed the apostles&#8217; corrective notes. The NT doesn&#8217;t provide a blueprint for creating (or re-creating) the Church; it&#8217;s not meant to, since the NT comes <em>after</em> the Church already existed.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ll give <em>The Pagan Church</em> a serious read and see about writing a review. Thanks for the recommendation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sola Scriptura by Jonathan Puddle</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/07/29/sola-scriptura/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Puddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christianity-Exploring-Church-Practices/dp/141431485X" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pagan Christianity?&lt;/a&gt; by Frank Viola and George Barna? They examine in depth much of current church practices (focusing on Protestantism) and come to much of the same conclusions.

This piece does have an unfortunate "us vs. them" attitude though, which I would imagine makes the reading difficult for those Protestants feeling slapped in face by the content, let alone the content's presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christianity-Exploring-Church-Practices/dp/141431485X" rel="nofollow">Pagan Christianity?</a> by Frank Viola and George Barna? They examine in depth much of current church practices (focusing on Protestantism) and come to much of the same conclusions.</p>
<p>This piece does have an unfortunate &#8220;us vs. them&#8221; attitude though, which I would imagine makes the reading difficult for those Protestants feeling slapped in face by the content, let alone the content&#8217;s presentation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cry Jesus by silouan</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/25/cry-jesus/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>silouan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be worth an article indeed - there's a complex history to the Orthodox presence in the Americas.

Short answer, though: I serve in &lt;a href="http://saintsilouan.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;a parish of the Russian Orthodox Church&lt;/a&gt;. The difference between Russian Orthodox and Greek Orthodox (or Bulgarian or Albanian)or whatever is about like the difference between American Presbyterians and Korean Presbyterians: there are ethnic and cultural differences, but they're pretty much on the same page.

With Orthodox Christians it's even more so. When I visit the Greek parish in the next town over, or the Antiochian (Arab) parish a little further down the highway, it's all familiar: it's the same faith and we all pray the identical Liturgy. What's different is mostly the language of the chatter over coffee after the service. In the Liturgy, the Russians tend to like choirs and harmony, while the Greeks tend have cantors singing distinctly Middle-Eastern melodies - but under the music, the hymn texts and the prayers are the same.

It's been said that most any Orthodox bishop could finish any other Orthodox bishop's sentences for him :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be worth an article indeed - there&#8217;s a complex history to the Orthodox presence in the Americas.</p>
<p>Short answer, though: I serve in <a href="http://saintsilouan.org" rel="nofollow">a parish of the Russian Orthodox Church</a>. The difference between Russian Orthodox and Greek Orthodox (or Bulgarian or Albanian)or whatever is about like the difference between American Presbyterians and Korean Presbyterians: there are ethnic and cultural differences, but they&#8217;re pretty much on the same page.</p>
<p>With Orthodox Christians it&#8217;s even more so. When I visit the Greek parish in the next town over, or the Antiochian (Arab) parish a little further down the highway, it&#8217;s all familiar: it&#8217;s the same faith and we all pray the identical Liturgy. What&#8217;s different is mostly the language of the chatter over coffee after the service. In the Liturgy, the Russians tend to like choirs and harmony, while the Greeks tend have cantors singing distinctly Middle-Eastern melodies - but under the music, the hymn texts and the prayers are the same.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been said that most any Orthodox bishop could finish any other Orthodox bishop&#8217;s sentences for him :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cry Jesus by Edgar</title>
		<link>http://silouanthompson.net/2008/08/25/cry-jesus/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read your about page.  Orthodox Church -  Is that the Greek or the Russian Orthodox? Perhaps you could do a write up on the differences?

In any case, great poem here from the 5th Century.  

Edgar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read your about page.  Orthodox Church -  Is that the Greek or the Russian Orthodox? Perhaps you could do a write up on the differences?</p>
<p>In any case, great poem here from the 5th Century.  </p>
<p>Edgar.</p>
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